= NOW 40 WPM = WORKS OFF OF THE MAGNETIC PORTION OF THE RF SIGNAL. WILL THE MAGNETIC PORTION PROPAGATE LIKE THE ELECTRIC PORTION? A ON PAGE 58 OF THE JANUARY 2022 ISSUE OF QST, KAI SIWIAK, KE4PT, EXPLAINS THAT WHAT WE COMMONLY CALL A MAGNETIC LOOP IS MORE PROPERLY CALLED A SMALL HF LOOP ANTENNA. ITS CLOSE NEAR FIELD IS MAINLY A MAGNETIC RESPONSE, BUT IT ALSO HAS A SMALLER YET SIGNIFICANT ELECTRIC FIELD RESPONSE. THE SIZE OF THE NEAR ELECTRIC FIELD DEPENDS ON THE LOOP CIRCUMFERENCE. HOWE ASK DAVE HAMS PERSEVERING THROUGH ALL SORTS OF ISSUES TRACKING DOWN INTERMOD Q OUR CLUB HAS BEEN OPERATING A REPEATER FOR OVER 30 YEARS AT THE SAME LOCATION. OF LATE, WEVE BEEN GETTING INTERFERENCE THAT HAS GROWN WORSE. WEVE TRACED THE AUDIO WERE HEARING TO A COUNTRY MUSIC FM STATION WHOSE ANTENNA IS NEAR OUR REPEATER. THEY SAY THERES NOTHING WRONG WITH THEIR EQUIPMENT. WHERE DO WE START? A ITS VERY LIKELY THAT THE FM STATION IS CORRECT. FURTHER, THE INPUT FILTERS FOR YOUR REPEATER THE CANS ARE SO NARROWBAND THAT THEY WILL NOT LET ANY OF THE FM SIGNAL INTO YOUR REPEATER. THE PROBLEM IS INTERMOD. THE FIRST STEP IS TO ADD A CTCSS TONE REQUIREMENT TO YOUR REPEATER INPUT. THAT WAY, EVERY TIME ONE OF YOUR CLUB MEMBERS TRANSMITS ON THE REPEATER INPUT FREQUENCY, THEY ARE INCLUDING A SUB AUDIBLE TONE THAT THE REPEATER MUST HEAR BEFORE IT WILL WORK. USUALLY, INTERMOD WILL NOT INCLUDE THIS FREQUENCY. IF IT DOES, CHANGE THE CTCSS FREQUENCY. THIS COULD SOLVE THE PROBLEM, AND IS WHAT MANY REPEATER OPERATORS HAVE DONE. IF THE INTERMOD BLOCKS LEGITIMATE INCOMING SIGNALS, YOU HAVE MORE DETECTIVE WORK TO DO. THE FM STATIONS SIGNAL IS BEING ADDED TO ANOTHER STATIONS FREQUENCY IN A NON LINEAR DEVICE, AND THE OUTPUT FREQUENCY IS EQUAL TO YOUR INPUT FREQUENCY. SUBTRACT THE FM STATIONS OUTPUT FREQUENCY FROM YOUR REPEATERS INPUT FREQUENCY. LOOK AROUND FOR A SOURCE OF THIS FREQUENCY, WHICH COULD BE A COMMERCIAL REPEATER OR SOME OTHER SOURCE. OTHER THINGS CAN ALSO ADD UP OR SUBTRACT DOWN TO YOUR REPEATERS INPUT FREQUENCY. THIS IS WHERE IT GETS DIFFICULT. FOR EXAMPLE, NO MATTER HOW GOOD THE FM STATION IS, AS CLOSE AS IT IS TO YOUR INPUT ANTENNA, THERE WILL BE HARMONICS. AND WHERE IS THIS NON LINEAR DEVICE THAT IS MIXING ADDING AND SUBTRACTING FREQUENCIES WHEN MORE THAN ONE SIGNAL IS PRESENT? IT COULD BE ANYTHING, SUCH AS A LOOSE BOLT SOMEWHERE ON THE TOWER, AN ISSUE WITH SOMEONES COAX, OR JUST ABOUT ANYTHING. YOU CAN TRY MOVING THE REPEATERS ANTENNA A FEW FEET. THE SEARCH FOR THE INTERMOD SOURCE CAN BE EXTREMELY FRUSTRATING. ARRL HAS A TECHNICAL INFORMATION SERVICE TIS ARRL. ORG THAT CAN HELP WITH DEEPER PROBLEMS. INSTALLING A VERTICAL IN A SMALL SPACE Q IM CONTEMPLATING A DX COMMANDER ANTENNA. I HAVE A SMALL YARD WITH ONLY ABOUT 18 20 FOR RADIALS. THE GRASS IS NOT HEALTHY AND WILL NEVER GROW OVER THE RADIALS. CAN I COVER THEM WITH GRAVEL? WHAT ABOUT PUTTING ARTIFICIAL TURF OVER THEM? WILL EITHER APPROACH INTERFERE WITH THEIR FUNCTION? A COVERING THEM WITH AN INCH OR TWO OF GRAVEL IS FINE. THE ARTIFICIAL TURF WILL NOT = END OF 40 WPM TEXT = QST DE W1AW <